Den flamländska organisationen Nieuw-Solidaristisch Alternatief kom med en förfrågan om att intervjuva en representant av AeL. Självklart var vi positiva till det och här nedan kan ni se resultatet.

N-SA: Heilsa! Can you introduce your blog, what it stands for and why you have chosen the name Aequitas et Libertas?

A&L: Aequitas et Libertas was created out of boredom. I just started to collect video clips. It was first on blogspot.com. I was invited later to motpol.nu by one of the administrators who liked my blog and there it has remained since then. Aequitas et Libertas was chosen, because I liked the movie The Boondock Saints… They use Aequitas et Veritas, so I took Aequitas et Libertas.

N-SA: As a National-Anarchist, how do you perceive the Third Position?

A&L: “Well the thing is, I do not really call myself National-Anarchist. I am inspired by their ideas of course but I do not like to put myself in a genre of ‘this you have to believe, otherwise you are not this and that’. I simply call myself National Revolutionary. As for the Third Position, It all depends on what you mean by the Third Position. I look for an alternative to both capitalist and state-socialist (i.e. state-capitalist) economy, so that would classify me as a Third Positionist, I guess”.

N-SA: Can you explain what National-Anarchists as Troy Southgate mean by the concept of “sovereign communities”. How could stateless communities be sovereign?

A&L: “A sovereign community would be in my opinion a direct-democratic community of people’s councils, I guess. A bit like the ones described in the ‘Green Book’ (by Moammar al Quadhafi). This obviously means that I am not a typical ‘National-Anarchist’”.

N-SA: National-Anarchists usually do not believe in the concept of the state anymore and they also have lost all hope for their people. This is usually their main motivation to support the creation of small village communities without centralised leadership. Do you still believe the Swedish people can be salvaged, or are you in agreement with the NA in this?

A&L: “Hmm, that is a good question. I do not believe in the parliamentary way. I never have. I would support a movement whose objectives were to build up our own structures. A society in the society so to speak. Unions, kindergartens etc. I am a little bit tainted by the revolutionary syndicalist movement. Sorel’s ideas about the myth of the general-strike are very interesting”.

N-SA: Right, we need to form a counter-society. From that point of view the National-Anarchist strategy seems interesting to me as a kind of guerrilla strategy, to conquer state and society. It is pretty much the reason why Southgate created the National Revolutionary Faction. Next question: National Revolutionaries tend to be elitist, what is your stance toward the current Swedish people?

A&L: “The current Swedes are a post-modern, politically correct people. I am sad to say it. I think it was Oswald Spengler, who said that in times of trouble there is always a small group of people who leads the mass to victory or something like that. I agree in that statement. Our duty is to gather that small group”.

N-SA: How strong is your link with the pan-European or Eurasian thought? Do you believe it confronts us with a golden opportunity?

A&L: “I must confess that I have not really gotten myself into the question of Eurasia. Much more reading is to be done. However, I do think that a stronger cooperation between the Eurasian states will serve to counter the American system of global liberalism. I do not think that this cooperation should take the form of a union”.

N-SA: How do you see European civilization (and Sweden in particular) evolving during the coming, let us say, 100 years?

A&L: “That depends on if we are successful in our achievements. Today it looks very dark for Swedish and European culture. I would expect an Islamisation of Europe if the current tendencies continue. Not that I have anything against Islam per se, but you have to face the truth in the eye so to speak. The Muslims are better breeders than our natives. An example is the South-Swedish town of Malmö, where the population is about 20% Muslim. Malmö is Sweden’s third largest city with a population of 280,144”.

N-SA: You’ve mentioned the decay of European civilization now and that Islam could fill that civilizational gap. How do you perceive religion and/or christianity in relation to our lives, society, civilization, etc. ?

A&L: As a traditional Catholic I see a great importance of religious life. Our society has degenerated, not entirely but very much, because of the lack of religion.

N-SA: Traditional catholics tend to see the destruction of the Church and the Faith as the result of an external (judeo-masonic) subversion, not as the result of internal decay or a combination of both like, for example, integral traditionalists.

A&L: Yes, agreed. The attacks have come from outside of the Church, because none of these ideas have been in the Church Doctrine in the past. But of course, a degeneration of clergy, who has become inspired by modernist thoughts, is something we can see in the church today.

N-SA: I bought a book last week, which explains for example how the social teachings of the Catholic Church (and the other great religions) became more and more ’corrupt’, in favour of the “usura” (usury) and the “avaritia” (greed).

A&L: Aha! But I think the social teachings of the Church are pretty good. I like the idea of distributionism for example.

N-SA: Islam is – thanks to the Iranian Revolution mostly, which stimulated islamic banking – is the “most anticapitalist” religion.

A&L: Yes, agreed.

N-SA: Let’s return to Europe’s future now. Do you consider yourself post-apocalyptic in this light perhaps? Many nationalists believe a great cataclysm will tip the balance in our favour. Do you believe nationalist better expect and wait for such opportunity to arise?

A&L: “I do not think waiting is an option. We must make our voice heard every day. In our schools, our working places. But sure, if such an event would occur, then we better be ready for it. I talked before about building our own structures, I think that is what we have to do today”.

N-SA: To continue down this line, what is your opinion on the Italian nationalist projects, such as Casa Pound and Mutuo Sociale?

A&L: “I think they are very inspiring. To have our own social centres is very important. And Casa Pound is a great example of such a centre”.

N-SA: In this light, are there any movements or projects active in Sweden which you give your support to?

A&L: “Not related to such movements as Casa Pound, etc. We have our usual Nazi movements here (hehe). But we also have some promising developments in Sweden, among them several identitarian groups”.

N-SA: A “petty-nationalist” question now. What is the matter in Skåneland? Is there some kind of separatism there?

A&L: “Well, there is a very small marginalised separatist movement… They are a hundred people, maybe less”.

N-SA: And they claim to be Danish?

A&L: “Through out history Skåne has been taken by Denmark and then back by Sweden again. If you would ask a ‘nationalist’ today about his identity, he would surely say that he is first Skåning and then Swedish”.

N-SA: What is then exactly the core business of Swedish nationalism or nationalists?

A&L: “Oh, circa 80% of the “movement” is NS, which means that the racial question (for them) is the top number one question. We have also a National-Democratic party which is ethno pluralist, but very economically (neo)liberal”.

N-SA: What do you think about the famous Swedish Viking Rock?

A&L: “It is not my taste of music, but it can work as an inspirator of nationalist feelings, which is good. Although most Viking Rock bands say that they are anti-racists (haha)”.

N-SA: You just talked about a counter-culture. Be it Neo-Folk, Skinhead, Zentropa or neo-Pagan, how do you see the role of such “scenes” with their own particular music and lifestyle?

A&L: “I am not especially negative against ‘subcultures’, although the skinhead image has in my opinion been harmful to the struggle. Straight Edge is an interesting culture which I myself was part of for some years. It has potential to be a ‘counter-culture’ as well as the Neo-Folk genre”.

N-SA: There is a lot of boasting about the Swedish social system. What do you think about that and how do you see its future?

A&L: “In the 50´s the social-democrats had their best time and created what they called the “folkhemmet” (the people’s home), some marxist-capitalist ideology inspired by the German National-Socialist Volksgemeinschaft ideology. During that era, the social-democrats were also surprisingly open on the racial issue. One ought not to idealise this Social Democratic project too much however, since it was a conformist and state-run system that laid the basis for today’s ‘soft’ totalitarianism. It pretty much eliminated the natural communities between individual and state, such as the family and the local community. This meant that the natural organs for resistance against today’s multiculturalism and so on were weakened”.

N-SA: Public debts, budget deficits, massive immigration, population ageing, etc. are just a few factors who put our current social systems under heavy pressure. How would you like to see the “social state” in the 21st century?

A&L: “The welfare state of the Swedish Social Democrats was basically an attempt to cover up the natural effects of capitalism. This means that it would gradually have to handle an increasing amount of problems, as such that eventually the system collapses. To handle this I would prefer to see something similar to the Guild Socialist system, where the workers own their own workplaces. That would minimize the need for high taxes and complicated distribution systems. A large part of the current economical crisis is also caused by the massive non-European immigration, and that would gradually be handled by a nationalist regime”.

N-SA: “Folkhemmet” – literally – sounds like (fascist) “Case Popolare” or nowadays Mutuo Sociale in Italy. That Italian project claims an own home (property) for every Italian family through a system of interest-free loans.

A&L: “Yes, and that sounds a little bit like Proudhon also”.

N-SA: Okay then, thanks for the interview!